Question: what are your
Well, we are a spiritual movement headed by his Divine Grace
RA Gohar Shahi with the messenger of Love; it is not about
any religion it’s not about any sectarianism it is all about
humanity, peace and Love. And there are thousands of People
who follow his Divine Grace RA Gohar Shahi in Pakistan and
all over the world even in India there are people who
believe because his Holiness has visited India in 1997 and
he addressed 5000 people here and the following visit of His
Holiness Gohar Shahi is in America, in Canada, Australia,
England, all over Europe, and so many other countries of the
Asia. So our basic principle is Divine Love, unifying the
hearts and the souls of the people no matter what religion
and sect they belong to.
Question: what is the population?
I told you they are in thousands I did not count, I cannot
give you the specific number but they are in thousands.
Question: love and compassion in the name of Azaadi
innocent people are being killed. What is your view?
Well as I perceive the problem this is deep rooted problem,
and first as we see the conflict of Kashmir started because
they were fighting over the land and then it became a
grudge. When they lost East Pakistan which became Bangladesh
and the Pakistan army holds grudge against Indian
governmental Indian army because they think that India was
involved in breaking Pakistan into two pieces. They are
holding grudge against India and ever since they have made
their goal and aim that they are going to do something nasty
to India since 1971 since the fall of Dhaka. These
atrocities have risen to an extreme degree and they are
infiltrating people especially Islamic organizations.
Pakistan government is not sincere in solving Kashmir
conflict. Simply because they want a land. they have lost a
land and they want to regain a part of land this is because
of the grudge they have in their hearts. This is why they
are carrying out all these atrocities and terrorist acts.
These militant organizations in Pakistan like
Lashkar-e-Tayyaba. Jaish mohammad, harkat-ul-Ansar,
sifaa-e-sahaba and so many other organizations which
apparently have been banned by the government of Pakistan
but under cover the government is supporting them, this is
why the atrocities are still at large scale everywhere
within Pakistan and in India also. So you may have realized
that any government whether it was the government of Benazir
Bhutto, or Nawaaz sharif government or General Pervez
Musharraf government the agenda on Kashmir conflict is the
same because this is a policy matter for the government.
This is why they don’t differ on it.
Question: is it good to kill innocent people? 99% have
come out, thousands of muslims have come out?
Well killing innocent people in the name of religion and in
the name of GOD, doesn’t justify killing. Killing is just
killing and it is not allowed in any religion, and those
people who are carrying out the butchery and massacre of
innocent people, whether they apparently belong to any
religion. They do not belong to any religion these are the
enemies of the humanity whether they claim to be Muslims or
they claim to be any other. That’s my perception.
Question: Any other message you’d like to give me?
Actually these atrocities and terrorist acts are because of
the hatred in hearts, in order to wipe out the hatred we
must introduce practical substance of Love and that Love is
to be filled in hearts and the hearts must be unified with
the help of Kalki Avatar. And we here promote the divine
teachings of His Holiness RA Gohar Shahi who has this
authority to unify these hearts and he fills hearts with
divine energy and he brings out the devil from our bodies
and from our hearts. When finally, the hatred is wiped out
from the hearts, Love is implanted and it is love that
brings peace about. If we are not going to take out the
hatred, wipe out the hatred from hearts no matter how
lengthy speeches we make, no matter how apparent efforts we
make it is never going to work out. In order to bring about
peace, we must implant true platonic love of God in our
hearts and this is exactly the message of His Holiness Gohar
Shahi. So we should pay attention.
So in order to see, there are differences and there are many
idols of hatred. Religions have been corrupted because of
the religious scholars who do have the knowledge of the
book, but they do not have any spiritual insight. they do
claim to practice the teachings of their religion but deep
down in their hearts they do not understand the true meaning
of their religion. Like these people Muslims, who claim to
be true Muslims but they are using Islam as an instrumental
and they are waging war against innocent humanity in the
name of Holy Jihad. I mean nowhere in Qur’an or in the
prophetic traditions Muhammad said kill any innocent human
being. This is not jihad, the true understanding of Jihad is
to wage war against those who want to eliminate your
religion, and today Islam is in no danger in no country,
there is no enemy of Islam. If India talks about Muslims, it
talks in terms of terrorism because these Muslims are
responsible for bringing terrorism and atrocities in India
and India wants to face God, its country, its motherland and
its people, they should not be bothered about it. So these
people who claim to be Muslims they are actually carrying
out massacre and butchery of innocent beings in the name of
religion. This is total hypocritical disorder and this is
not Islam, Islam originally was the religion of peace but
since the introduction of these sectarian elements in Islam,
Islam has turned out be a monster, it has been distorted”
the image has been gone”.
Question: Islamic terrorism is a world wide issue.
It is everywhere now
Question about Terrorism
Yeah, see the problem is Islamist terrorism is not confined
to one country or one region, it is spreading like a cancer
all over the world whether it is India, whether it is the
parliament house in New Delhi whether it is train in Mumbai,
or whether it is Casablanca, whether it is Madrid, whether
it is the London bombings or September the 11th in New York,
America. You will see one hand, one master mind behind it.
Taliban, Osama bin Laden, al Qaeda these are the Muslim
Actually this indicates the end of the times, when the Anti
Christ has to come into this world to spread hatred in the
name of the religion. Fortunately, it is not only the anti
Christ that has to come towards the near of the end of this
world but also Kalki Avatar the promised messiah, and the
Imam Mehdi also. So the best solution to this problem is
that we unify, we bring about divine love in our hearts and
we look for Kalki Avatar, because America is the most
powerful nation on Earth. If America is not able to combat
against these people, then people like India are not going
to make a win over these people. We need to look for divine
help we need to turn our heads towards Kalki Avatar because
Kalki Avatar is supposed to help the humanity come out from
the crisis of hatred and crisis of terrorism today we need
to turn our hearts and our faces towards Kalki Avatar,
promised messiah and it may be the only solution we may have
for as far as we have seen a lot of movement but no results
came out. This is my perception.
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